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Postby WestCoast on Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:55 pm

Right. First post in the critiques forum.
I have my flame-proof suit on, so do your best! :D

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Postby Alex on Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:57 pm

Welcome to the forum!

What a great image! I like the way you did not isolate the seagull but put it in context of other birds, yet isolated it by selective colouring. Well done.

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Postby moggy on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:00 pm

Great action shot and well anticipated. :wink:

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Postby avkomp on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:01 pm

good first post.

I like how all the seagulls seem suspended in mid air.

I would be tempted to clone the larger OOF one out of the foreground on the Lhs though.

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Postby drifter on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:04 pm

Great shot .But the colour on the chip makes it look like the chip has been added in later . To my eye anyways .
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Postby NikonUser on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:24 pm

Fantastic shot!

If you're feeling artistic I'd like to see what the image would like like with the bird catching the chip also in colour (leaving the rest how they are)

Might look crap but I'd like to see it anyway :)

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Postby oli on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:33 pm

Looks familar. Did you post this over on OCAU awhile back?
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Postby Alpha_7 on Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:54 pm

Really interesting and very artfully presented. I'd agree about it being stronger with the OOF seagull removed.
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Postby WestCoast on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:12 pm

oli wrote:Looks familar. Did you post this over on OCAU awhile back?
Indeed I did! :D
And you (and other lurking OCAUers) will probably see some more familiar stuff as I unleash my pics on the poor unsuspecting folks in this forum! :D
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Postby WestCoast on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:19 pm

NikonUser wrote:Fantastic shot!

If you're feeling artistic I'd like to see what the image would like like with the bird catching the chip also in colour (leaving the rest how they are)

Might look crap but I'd like to see it anyway :)

Paul

I did tinker with that idea when I was first processing the shot, but since gulls are mostly b&w anyway (well, apart from beak and feet) I just ended up converting the whole image to b&w, bar the chip.
I've had a few comments about the chip looking fake or like it has been photo-shopped in, but it's real. It took me a whole damn bag full of chips to get that shot! :D
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Postby mudder on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:30 pm

Excellent, well executed and tastefully done... Congrats on such a terrific first post!

Agree with cloning out the OOF bird on the lhs, it takes me away from your key subject...
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Postby WestCoast on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:41 pm

Thanks for the comments so far.
I have cloned out the offending animal in question.
Poor bird... never knew what hit him... :D

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Postby avkomp on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:46 pm

works for me. although a slightly different crop may work better now.

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Postby WestCoast on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:48 pm

avkomp wrote:works for me. although a slightly different crop may work better now.

Steve
Yup. It looks unbalanced and a little "empty" now.
I might go back to the original and do a tighter crop - will see how that works out.

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Postby avkomp on Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:51 pm

another cheating thing you might try could be to clone a bird or two from another frame into the void.


Just dont tell anyone!!

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Postby wendellt on Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:14 pm

cool, that's one stunning image, even the chip looks out of place, it's visually humorous and graphic
good one!
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Postby marcotrov on Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:00 pm

Great timing, sharp, thoughtfully executed and terrific first post westcoast. Look forward to more. :)
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Postby Slider on Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:07 am

Top shot. Great anticipation . Great contrast with the selective colours. :D
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Postby cameraguy21773 on Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:33 am

I like the second shot with the large OOF bird gone. The openess and asemmitry is exceptional. You turned a quite good shot into a real winner. Do Not fill that newly opened space. One of the best shots of this type I've seen in a very long time.
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Postby Finch on Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:32 am

Welcome to posting pics on forum! I posted my first one yesterday as well and its great to get critique back. Your seagulls shot is fantastic and I can appreciate how hard it is to get a good shot while birds are flying. Like many others, I prefer version no. 2 with the OOF gull removed. Must admit, I also thought the chip was added in.

Great first posting, Westcoast

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