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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:29 pm

After much stuffing around with Fastway Courier my new lens arrived this afternoon.

All I will say at this moment is that it is a 28-75mm f/2.8 lens. The pic was shot with the D2Hs and the data is: iso 200, f/6.3 @ 1/180th sec, A priority. The object is slap bang in the middle of the frame - sorry rule of thirds people.

Can anyone guess what lens?

Of course, critique is welcome :wink:

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Postby Raskill on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:30 pm

sigma....
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:31 pm

Raskill wrote:sigma....


NO :roll:
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Postby Glen on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:34 pm

Nice pink flower Chris :D
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Postby DionM on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:37 pm

Tampon ... er I mean Tamron?

:lol:

Looks good though, must admit.

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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:45 pm

DionM wrote:Tampon ... er I mean Tamron?

:lol:

Looks good though, must admit.


And the winner is - Tamron. Managed to get this lens for $440.00 from a Canon dealer in Qld - they had only one available in Nikon mount. Cheapest price I found in Australia (other than this) was $583.11 from Dirt Cheap.

Well done Dion - sorry, no prize :lol:
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Re: New Lens

Postby MCWB on Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:47 pm

sirhc55 wrote:Can anyone guess what lens?

Tamron?

Edit: bollocks! :lol:
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:29 pm

Chris,

Your pic said all! and good choice!

I have one of them and use it more than my 28-70. Why?
- Light and compact than the 28-70/ 2.8
- Easy to mount as walkaround lens.
- Qualities of photos are same and equal with the 28-70/2.8.
- Wide open is far better than 28-70/2.8 and it's true!

I introduced it to few guys on this forum, even loan it to them, but they knocked it back.

Well! I'm happy with it and use it more often eventhough someone does not like.
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:41 pm

Birdie - I thought long and hard about this lens, and of course looked at the Sigma. But in the end I chose this lens after checking through hundreds of photos taken with it through pBase - plus the price was totally unreal :D
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Postby wendellt on Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:43 pm

i better revisit this lens
if it's better wide open than the nikon 28-70 f2.8
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:48 pm

sirhc55 wrote:Birdie - I thought long and hard about this lens, and of course looked at the Sigma. But in the end I chose this lens after checking through hundreds of photos taken with it through pBase - plus the price was totally unreal :D


Chris,
As I said, great decision! and it's top mark lens, Tamron makes good glasses as the 28-75/ 90 + 180 macro. It's substituted the 28-70/2.8.
and it'll bring you more income same as the 28-70/2.8.

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You had it for two weeks, but you didn't know how to use it, didn't you?
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Postby DionM on Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:48 pm

It is a very good lens. Many on Canon sites rave about it. I have been thinking about one - especially at the price! A 28mm 2.8 prime is not far off the same price.

My only concern is Tamron compatibility with Canon mount (electronics) and future bodies and possible problems as some have had. Same is for Nikon I guess.

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Postby johndec on Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:01 pm

Birddog114 wrote:Chris,

Your pic said all! and good choice!

I have one of them and use it more than my 28-70. Why?
- Light and compact than the 28-70/ 2.8
- Easy to mount as walkaround lens.
- Qualities of photos are same and equal with the 28-70/2.8.
- Wide open is far better than 28-70/2.8 and it's true!

I introduced it to few guys on this forum, even loan it to them, but they knocked it back.

Well! I'm happy with it and use it more often eventhough someone does not like.


WOW... I'm going to seriously consider this in light of Birdy's comment. The only Tamron I own is the 70-300 that came with my D70 from HN and is currently doing duty as a doorstop :shock:

As much as I love my nikkors, at 1/4 the price, this lens must come into the frame (pardon the bad pun) :lol:
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:05 pm

DionM wrote:My only concern is Tamron compatibility with Canon mount (electronics) and future bodies and possible problems as some have had. Same is for Nikon I guess.


Perhaps with Canon but not with Nikon, I had it nearly 3 years now, no problems exist, as the 28-70/2.8 (less than 12 months).
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Postby spada on Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:44 pm

Hi
Chirs, you will like it as much as i do, I had that on the cameras all time , It produce good pics that I rarely use my nikoor 28-70 because heavy.It also sharp at wide open ( f2.8 ), however at night sometime it misforcus ( with the S2 ), I think you will not have that misforcus @ night cause it is on D2 series. Congratulation on your new lens.
Edit : nice flower, good color contrast, and sharpness.

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Postby birddog114 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:01 pm

spada wrote:Hi
Chirs, you will like it as much as i do, I had that on the cameras all time , It produce good pics that I rarely use my nikoor 28-70 because heavy.It also sharp at wide open ( f2.8 ), however at night sometime it misforcus ( with the S2 ), I think you will not have that misforcus @ night cause it is on D2 series. Congratulation on your new lens.
Edit : nice flower, good color contrast, and sharpness.

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spada,
Confirmed, no misfocus on the D2 and D100, perhaps it's time to send your S2 to the doctor.
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Postby marcotrov on Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:11 pm

Great image Chris -contrasty and crisp. Gee you've made me, along with a lot of others, think about the Tamron. I've never really considered a 28-70 f/2.8 because of price but this is certainly a honey of a lens by the looks of it and if Birddog thinks its great well there you go! How is the autofocus when used on the D70?
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:49 pm

Marco - I have just finished testing on the D70. In my lounge room under dim lighting it is fast and accurate - no hunting at all :D
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Postby marcotrov on Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:54 pm

Sounds good Chris. There's another lens that joins my Lens Lust List. :wink:
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Postby johndec on Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:58 pm

Chris. Can I have a play with your new toy on Saturday?
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:12 pm

johndec wrote:Chris. Can I have a play with your new toy on Saturday?


If I make it on Saturday - no problem :D
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:16 pm

johndec wrote:Chris. Can I have a play with your new toy on Saturday?


John,
I have mine (28-75/2.8) at the mini meet for you to play.
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Postby johndec on Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:23 pm

Thanks Chris and Birdy. It sounds like a mighty fine mid range zoom and a good replacement for the kit lens. Not that there is anything wrong with the kits lens, it's a great value for money piece of kit. Now all I have to do is sort out the WA zoom (12-24) problem... Nikon, Sigma, Tokina... AGHHH!!
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Postby pippin88 on Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:49 pm

Shit, that's a bargain if it gets anywhere near rivaling the 28-70/2.8.

Decisions, decisions. Was aiming for the Sigma 70-200, but I don't know how much I'd really use that. Might be better value to get this a a wide angle?

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Postby DionM on Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:55 pm

Birddog114 wrote:Perhaps with Canon but not with Nikon, I had it nearly 3 years now, no problems exist, as the 28-70/2.8 (less than 12 months).


Interesting. I often read of problems when people change Canon bodies and lenses don't work. It used to happen more often with film bodies than digital.

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Postby JZA70-mel on Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:13 am

I do agree that there is attractive contrast in the flower to background.

The lens looks like a more than viable alternative to the Nikon offering. The only deficiency (which may not be a deficiency) is that there seems to be no inbuilt focus motor (AFS / SWM) and relies on camera drive. That said, I have not even considered a non-Nikon 2.8 replacement for the kit lens prior to this.

Oh dear - it looks like this thread is going to be a Tamron lens thread!
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Postby sirhc55 on Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:06 am

Having no motor in the lens is what makes it such a delight to use - it is not heavy.

During my tests on speed of focus, both on the D70 and the D2Hs, I found it to be extremely responsive.

The creamy OOF elements are another reason I really like this lens :D
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Postby MCWB on Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:07 am

JZA70-mel wrote:That said, I have not even considered a non-Nikon 2.8 replacement for the kit lens prior to this.

It's 28 mm at the wide end, which on a 1.5x crop camera is far from wide angle... even with the 24-120 VR I sometimes wish I had a bit more on the wider end.
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Postby sirhc55 on Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:10 am

MCWB wrote:
JZA70-mel wrote:That said, I have not even considered a non-Nikon 2.8 replacement for the kit lens prior to this.

It's 28 mm at the wide end, which on a 1.5x crop camera is far from wide angle... even with the 24-120 VR I sometimes wish I had a bit more on the wider end.


And that is why I have the 12-24 :lol:

I am missing 4mm between 24 and 28 8)
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Postby Hlop on Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:32 am

Seems to be very sharp lens Chris! But I see some chromatic abberations at petals edges. Will you be able to post couple of more examples containing some high contrast areas?
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Postby sirhc55 on Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:35 am

Hlop wrote:Seems to be very sharp lens Chris! But I see some chromatic abberations at petals edges. Will you be able to post couple of more examples containing some high contrast areas?


Will do Mikhail :D
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Postby xerubus on Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:08 am

Chris... any more shots with this lens?
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Postby sirhc55 on Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:30 am

xerubus wrote:Chris... any more shots with this lens?


I will try and get some more shots together over the weekend Mark :D
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Postby xerubus on Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:37 am

sirhc55 wrote:
xerubus wrote:Chris... any more shots with this lens?


I will try and get some more shots together over the weekend Mark :D


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Postby shutterbug on Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:52 am

I have this lens :)

It does a great job, what I like about it is the F2.8 and also the macro ability. It is attached to my S2 all time and is great for events :wink:
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Postby johndec on Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:09 pm

I was expressing interest in getting one of these lenses and our generous Patron was kind enough to lend me his for a few days. I thought I'd do a few tests on it. As I was a bit short of a handy brick wall, this timber post was my subject. No PP at all just cropped and sized:

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At f2.8 100% crop:
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At f4:
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At f5.6:
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At f8:
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Pretty damm impressive :lol:
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Postby xerubus on Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:12 pm

thanks for that.... very sharp indeed!

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Postby birddog114 on Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:33 pm

As said, at f2.8, sharpness is more than useable, at f.4 it sings!

I had the Tamron 28-75 on my D2x for the two days shooting at RAAF
Williamtown (Fri) and Boat Harbour same as Fisherman Bay last weekend.

The main reason, I didn't use my Nikon 28-70/ f.8 due to its size.
IMHO, the photo qualities from this Tamron lens are the same or equal with the Nikon 28-70 f2.8, lack of AF-S on the Tamron but it's still fast in focussing, its price is 1/3 or close to 1/2 the price of the Nikon 28-70.
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Postby johndec on Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:42 pm

FYI. This is the f2.8 crop with moderate sharpening (225 0.5 0). I would not worry about shooting with this lens at f2.8 as even a little sharpening brings it up to near the quality of the sweet spot ~f5.6-f8 :

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Postby nito on Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:33 pm

Thanks for an interesting thread, it changed my perception on tameron lens. :D
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