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			 by Wocka on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:40 am
 This was my first real attempt at shooting at night. Unfortunately the blanket of clouds and the rising tide was getting the better of me. All images processed in LR then Photoshop.  The full moon finally came out from the clouds after we had packed up, so it was a mad dash to another vantage point and this was the result. A little hand held flash was fired at the pine tree for fill.  A 4 stitch pano, while waiting for a friend to complete his shots. I think I should have kept panning to the right for this series. Warwick=======
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			 by stubbsy on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:24 am
 Wocka
 The first shot is the standout for me - great colour and composition and it makes the most of the water reflections.  The last shot suffers a little for two reasons - one you've mentioned (more to the right). but the second IMHO is too much foreground.  I think a judicious crop from the bottom would make this a stronger image by drawing the eye more to the lights of the skyline than the sand in the foreground.
 
			
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			 by rcg on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:01 pm
 Good shots all round, although i agree that there is too much foreground in the last shot. a tighter crop will give you a much more effective image 
			
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			 by CraigVTR on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:13 pm
 Great shots Wocka#1 is the pick of the bunch.  I am not sure if agree with the other comments about the last. More to the right would have been good, assuming there was more to the right, but I would try to crop down on the sky a little bit.  I, in my strange way, tend to find the foreground in this shot interesting.
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			 by Wocka on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:25 pm
 Thx for the comments guys. I think the forground is the most interesting part, but there is also too much of it. I should heve kept panning in this sequence, but I was just wasting time while waiting for a mate to finish his shots. Here is a tighter crop, some off the top and bottom.  Do I need to take more off the bottom, I just feel the clump of stones in the bottom right hand corner adds something to the image? Warwick=======
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			 by Pehpsi on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:35 pm
 Top colours in #1, but I love everything about #2! Comp, colours, fill-flash, all great. 
			
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			 by stubbsy on Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:12 pm
 Warwick
 You've nailed it with #4 in the new crop.
 
			
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			 by CraigVTR on Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:14 pm
 Yep  Tighter crop is better.   CraigLifes journey is not to arrive at our grave in a well preserved body but, rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "Wow what a ride."
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			 by Oscar on Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:51 pm
 Really like #2 and the cropped version of #3. Nice captures Warwick.    Mick 
			
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			 by Geoff on Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:18 pm
 No.1 is the definite winner here mate, as already stated and I too agree that the final crop of the last image is best.  A little niggle with no.1 for me is I want to tilt it ever so slightly to the left, is that just me?    Have you seen your mates images? 
			
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			 by Wocka on Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:51 pm
 Thx Guys,
 Now that I have cropped No# 3 I agree it's a lot better.
 
 No# 2 is my favourite, but maybe cause I was set-up in the middle of a road, 75-300IS with the tripod ( dead-end no cars ) with a swarm of 8 drunk locals wondering what I was doing on Easter Sunday night. The palm tree is located less than 1m from a residential balcony.
 
 My mate started laughing, saying the guy came out wondering if there was lightning as I was flashing the 580ex about 10 times all up. It must have been a funny sight, me set-up in the road, set the self timer and run to the tree waiting to hear the shutter click and fire away at the flash.
 
 Geoff:
 You should recognise the beach and it's very steep sand gradient. I took the level off the golf club roof in the background.
 I have seen only one of his shots a HDR version. For a D200 + 14-24mm it come out bloody nice.
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			 by Geoff on Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:03 pm
 Wocka wrote:Thx Guys,For a D200 + 14-24mm it come out bloody nice.
 And your point is?   
			
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			 by Wocka on Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:22 pm
 And your point is? 
 It's a Nikon I wasn't expecting that great a shot.     To be honest he's a better photographer and has better gear than I have. Both of these combined just sh*t all over my work. I'd be happy with either and I can't afford to switch to Nikon so I just tell myself it's worse hardware than Canon. It helps me with the lust for the dark side. CheersWarwick=======
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			 by surenj on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:41 pm
 Canon or Nikon, I like #1 for colour and composition... Last photo is better with the foreground cropped 
			
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			 by Analog6 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:50 am
 #1 is great for all the reasons mentioned but for me is spoilt by the crooked horizon line.  One of my strange quirks.  I really like #2 with the moon, a very good capture. Odille------http://odille.zenfolio.com ~ http://www.lightartforum.comCanon 20D & 300D; 18-55; 35-90; 90-300; Sigma 24-70 & 28-300; H'blad 553elx & f4 Sonnar 150 
			
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