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by bwhinnen on Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:58 am
Whilst at a Dyno day for various Subaru vehicles over the weekend I took this opportunity photo.
D200, 70-200 f2.8 VR, ISO 100, 70mm, f/2.8, 1/2500sec, Matrix Metering
I wonder if you find the background too busy, is there enough separation between the subject and the background? I do want to return to the location and have another attempt (hopefully the pallets are still there as I like the slightly industrial look to the background).
C+C most welcome!
Brett
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by Alpha_7 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:37 am
I find the background to be too busy, and nearly overpowers the car in the shot, also some of the reflections you are picking up are distracting but thats the nature of the beast.. (I find getting the car nice and muddy stops a lot of the reflections..  but defeats the original purpose).
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by Glen on Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:40 am
Brett, I like the shot but as soon as you mentioned background I thought too busy. Further to Craig's comment above re reflections, Oz Beachside had the suggestion of getting cloth stretched out off camera so the reflections you see are uniform. I thought it was a good solution.
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by sirhc55 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:45 am
Deep etch the car and gaussian blur the background to your taste and also desaturate the background. The reflections in the panel can be PS cloned out and touched up.
Nice pic of the car

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by bwhinnen on Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:48 am
Hmm that is a good idea re: uniform reflections... I want to actually get there later in the day too, Sun will be going down behind my shooting position.
Would a narrower DOF suit this better (thus my question about separation), a wider lens would help as I would be able to get closer and use the aperture to get that narrower DOF. Perhaps also some more distance between the car and the background.
Time to test it out, thanks for the comments thus far.
Cheers
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by CraigVTR on Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:46 pm
Brett
You could try;
Car further from the background,
you further from the car,
and a longer lens.
It would compress the scene give you a shallow dof, if wide open, and highlight the car.
Just a thought. 
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by Oz_Beachside on Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:22 pm
Nice wheels. A friend of mine, who is also a member in here, is picking up his brnad new rex as I type this, so ironic to see this pic.
On topic, The location will work really well!!! three things I like about this scene, the brick wall, the 20 foot container, and the pallet stack.
What I dont like, is the busy reflections (looks like a servo or somehting).
If you go back, maybe you could use the container as the reflector (rather than as a backdrop, use it to provide a nice clean bounce), then maybe the brickwall as the backdrop(you might be able to achieve this by simply parking 90 degrees from where it is now). And the pallets to complement the scene, without crowding it. Pallets are easier to move then containers).
Also, if possible, take a knee, and get a little more daylight under, or through the wheels). Maybe come around a little to get some more detail of the nice rims.
I like the DOF, the subject is clear. If you background and reflection is simple enough, its fine.
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by bwhinnen on Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:20 pm
No the site is not a servo. It is the front of a business, there were alot of cars in the carpark at the time. I think if we go late on a Sunday arvo there should be nothing there in the car park which should help with reflections.
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