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1st Model Shoot...pics #2

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:32 pm
by !~DeViNe~DaRkNeSs~!
hi guys, by popular demand ;) and no annoying copyrights here are sum more for u to examine :)
these i adjusted VERY quickly in PP in u guessed it..JPEG format :?
hopefully they arent too big :oops:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:39 pm
by mattyjacobs
#4 is a really wierd pose.

And I think there's a forum rule about limiting it to 4 images per thread, for the dialup/limited download people. Just a friendly reminder!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:44 pm
by beetleboy
Add some contrast to make your pastey-black black (the white point is pretty good) and you'll be good to go!

Good work buddy! :D

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:49 pm
by Alex
Pose and composition wise, I like No 3 and 1. No 4 looks very uncomfortable and unnatural to me. They also look a tad underexposed to me.

Great work though.

Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:50 pm
by wendellt
the first dress is really nice

as for the first and last her right eye looks dark for this type of glamour shot it's best to position the lights in a way so you get a catch light reflection in both eyes

you had 3 at your disposal so one of them should be used as a catch light


white balance on third is better but it now lacks contrast
just fix up the highlight and shadow tones and you'll have a pretty sexy shot

also some look blurry is this due to your harsh jpeging or have you misfocused, what shutter settrings were you using?
most shots look like the poses were pretty static so you shouldn't of had focus issues

also wondering since you used 3 lights all images look underexposed you must of been using high f stops or shutterspeed or your lighting was turned down really low, or you have intentionally made them darker in post, out of intrest whats going on there?

very good for your first try, keep at it

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:10 pm
by PiroStitch
i really like some of the poses but have to echo Wendell's points about blurring of images. Is it misfocussed or just jpeg crapness?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:17 pm
by !~DeViNe~DaRkNeSs~!
wendellt wrote:the first dress is really nice

as for the first and last her right eye looks dark for this type of glamour shot it's best to position the lights in a way so you get a catch light reflection in both eyes

also some look blurry is this due to your harsh jpeging or have you misfocused, what shutter settrings were you using?
most shots look like the poses were pretty static so you shouldn't of had focus issues

also wondering since you used 3 lights all images look underexposed you must of been using high f stops or shutterspeed or your lighting was turned down really low, or you have intentionally made them darker in post, out of intrest whats going on there?

very good for your first try, keep at it


lol i wish u didnt point me to her dark eye lol its driving me nuts now!! haha

Yes i got a few blurry shots as my shutter speed was wayyy low, i was shooting around 1/25-1/100 as MAX and mins for my f4.5 18-55 lens and iso at 100/200 for using flash and 800 without :( ....it was REALLY struggling! when i slapped on the 50mm f1.8 i could raise to almost 1/200 with no real probs and this was 200/400 iso.... i seemed over the day to be getting one blurry, one fine and one with a dud WB out of every 10 shots....i did sus this out slowly and due to the volume of shots i took it didnt make a major difference in the long run, maybe helped by cutting the amount of keepers down to 200-300 instead of 500+ :oops:
i think i DESPERATELY need a 50mm before my next shoot, as i say im in love with it, even with just the model lamps on i took sum excellent shots, especially of the bridal set!
hmm so ppl arent keen on pose 4 huh...i thought it was a great pose to emphisise her make-up......man i never realised how long that stuff takes! the girls arrived at 10am and the last one left at 6pm!! it was CRAZY! but well, well, well, well Worth it! :D Angie as a model is AMAZING huh! i dont think there would be a girl that would suit someone's first shoot better! She is on fire..... The other girls of course were excellent too but Angie REALLY stood out and knew her stuff fantastically!

should i mention now that over the day my Mrs was VERY close to me at ALL times, shedding tears occasionally and highly upset :twisted: hehe i dont know how she is going to handle me doing this every now and then...think i care lol :twisted:

oh maybe i should answer.... the focus yes is out alittle, noticeable in the hair mainly and a TINY bit on the edge of the face......JPG crappyness is a large contributer as well
i honestly had my sharpness turned down alittle during the first parts just because i was worried about flaws in the makeup/natural skin flaws etc
so alittle from column A and alittle from column B :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:34 pm
by wendellt
i think its important at this stage to study your current technique andpolish it up or yul lbe making the same mistakes for a long time

first of al most studio work with the assistance of 1 light or even 2 at nominal output
requires a shutter of 1/125 or 1/1250 fstops arent an issue really unles you want dof effects like image 4
but usually depth of field shoud be set to f5 to f8 or more

if you get a light meter that will tell you what to do essentially

slso i find it weird you would need 2 studio strobes and a flash unit to accomplish most of these shots

where you have admitted that some were kind of available light shots

one way to learn is to use 1 light see what kind of exposures you get with a set reference 1/125 f8 ISO100 and then work up from there

dont compromise on shutter speed for studio work 1/125 minimum
compromise the f stops or changign power output of lights and positioning

anyway theres heaps to it but basically start basic then work your way up

but i admire your goign full on with these just doing what you do and experimenting thats good some people are afraid to 'just do it' thats how you learn

sometimes we all get too technical and we dont do anything

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:38 pm
by wendellt
yoiur choice of the 50mm is good too no distortion at 50mm good for fashion

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:46 pm
by Yi-P
Im not very sure why you are getting these underexposures with the strobes. I have the same setup as you do and from my tests, 1/250 @ f/5.6 (+1EV overexposed) I only need a 1/4 + 1/8 from both strobes output bounced back from the umbrellas.


Also, your white balance appears to be on the warmer side of the comfort area, consider tweaking a little bit of the WB?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:28 pm
by Oz_Beachside
i like the shallow DOF in the last one, but maybe just crop the legs out.

Her posing is great, and provides a lot of variation.

In my first few studio shoots, I had my lights far too far away from the models, for the lighting I wanted. As wendellt said, experiment. I suffer from not moving my lights enough, and I get 300 good shots, but the lighting is so consistent, that the variation gets boring.

I like to bring a soft box in about 1 foot from the model, very different contours to 6 feet away.

Angie doesnt need the bling either. I like shots with less jewelry, and "create" the jewelry by creating catchlights in the eyes, and shine on the lip gloss.

Nice results.