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Postby Oneputt on Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:49 am

One from our Central Australia trip. I have my own ideas but can anyone give me a positive ID on this bird please. Shot with the 80-400VR 1/500s at f/6.3.

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Postby Killakoala on Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:03 am

I don't know what it is, but i wanted to say that it's a very nice shot and a great pose by the bird in question.
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Postby Pa on Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:25 am

hi oneputt very nice shot, i have no idea what it is. what do you think it is.
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Postby Slider on Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:42 am

NIce shot John. He sure does have his eye on you :D Don't know what it is apart from some type of hawk, kestrel etc.... :roll:
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Postby Oneputt on Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:57 am

Pa I can't make up my mind between the Grey and Brown Falcon. I am laening towards the Grey Falcon. I am hoping thet AVkomp can help. Are you out there Steve?
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Postby Pa on Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:34 am

oneputt we found a picture of an australian kestrel that looks like it may be it if you click this link it takes you to the site
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Postby Oneputt on Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:38 am

Pa I think that you have got it. The dark mark under the eye is the clincher. Thanks a lot. :D
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Postby ATJ on Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:47 am

It is a fantastic photograph, but it my opinion it isn't from an angle that will make a positive ID easy. I'm leaning towards brown falcon, Falco berigora, because of the dark thighs, but it could easily be a gray falcon, F. hypoleucos, or an Australian kestrel, F. cenchroides. All three species have dark under the eyes.
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Postby Oneputt on Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:58 am

Bugger you ATJ, just when I thought we had it :wink: But you are quite right about the dark mark, my book says that all three species have it.
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Postby avkomp on Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:23 pm

oneputt, I am working on computers so was going to have a look when I got the birdy books available

but luckily dont think I need em here.

looks like a
Nankeen Kestral, also known as australian kestral.
although the ones around here look darker than this

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Postby Matt. K on Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:36 pm

Nice image but needs a 'BLUE' sky. 25 seconds PP. :D
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Postby NikonUser on Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:46 pm

I'm not so sure that it's a Nankeen Kestral... They are VERY close in my book so it's hard to tell but I think it may be a Brown Falcon (light morph).

My reason being that the Nankeen Kestral has yellow legs and eye-rings whereas the Brown falcon has grey ones (as in this picture). Other than that, the light morph Brown Falcon looks very similar in markings to the Male (I think) Nankeen Kestral (including the brown stripes).

I think a different angle could help.

I could be totally off the mark here but that's just my two cents.

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Postby avkomp on Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:47 pm

t is a fantastic photograph, but it my opinion it isn't from an angle that will make a positive ID easy. I'm leaning towards brown falcon, Falco berigora, because of the dark thighs, but it could easily be a gray falcon, F. hypoleucos, or an Australian kestrel, F. cenchroides. All three species have dark under the eyes.


agree with this comment wholeheartedly.
the light morph of a brown falcon looks like a kestral but has the dark bit on the thighs so that may be the answer

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Postby Big Red on Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:57 pm

very nice composition John 8)
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Postby BT*ist on Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:14 am

Haven't got a clue what kind of bird it is, but I'll call it "vey nice". Great shot, too! :D
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