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An old woman

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:32 pm
by Alex
These are a couple more from Thailand, from province Sukhothai. I noticed this old woman walking around the park. Critique and comments are very welcome.
Thanks
Alex

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:34 pm
by birddog114
Alex,
Lucky to see you came back here safely after took her picture. The bamboo stick in her hand is a danger weapons :lol: :lol:

Your photos are showing alot of the real people.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:51 pm
by Alex
Thanks, Birdie. Actually, she was a very kind woman. She smiled a lot when she saw my point camera at her.

Alex

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:52 pm
by xerubus
i think both shots could use b&w processing and a touch of dodge and burn. subject is interesting.

cheers

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:53 pm
by Alex
Thanks, Mark. Will give it a go.

Cheers
Alex

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:55 pm
by Dug
She has an amazing face did you get any close up shots?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:22 pm
by Alex
Dug,

No, unfortunately not. I wish I did though. She came and disappeared before I could change to a telephoto lens too quickly...

Alex

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:16 pm
by marcotrov
Certainly an interesting subject that begs, i agree with dug, for closeup work. I would have preferred to se more of her face in a tighter crop in #1. Good efforts Alex
cheers
marco

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:10 am
by PiroStitch
She looks like she's about to whack you with that stick. :) Prefer the first photo. Nice one Alex :D

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:27 am
by xerubus
I keep coming back to this post as there is something very interesting about the lady in the first shot. definitely a shot you could sit for hours with in processing.

I have played a bit with black and white, and I hope you don't mind if I post it. If you do just holla and I will remove the post.

Very dark processing, blatantly obvious overboard vignette... increased shadows in the lady's weather lines...

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cheers

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:28 am
by Alpha_7
I really like the B&W processing, great stuff!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:03 am
by Alex
Mark,

Thanks for this. I really like what you did with it. Works so much better. How did you arrive to the result?

Thanks
Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:20 pm
by xerubus
Alex wrote:Mark,

Thanks for this. I really like what you did with it. Works so much better. How did you arrive to the result?

Thanks
Alex


Alex... this could be done a lot better.. but the basics i did are as follows:

1. convert to b&w using the Carr b&w method. i have posted it elsewhere on this forum a while ago.
2. adjust curves
3. adjust contrast
4. dodge and burn midtones, highlights, and shadows.... as well as create the overboard vignette. concentrated a lot with darkening the weather lines on her face
5. slight crop

cheers

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:45 pm
by Alex
Mark, Thank you for these detailed instructions! I really like carr B&W method which you posted some time ago. I downloaded the action. What did you do in photoshop to apply vignette?

Thanks
Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:51 pm
by xerubus
dodge and burn tool. for darkening used burn/midtones/exp 52

cheers

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:57 pm
by Collingwood
The B&W looks great and the final touch may be to remove the washed out area from the sun behind her. It has no detail whatsoever. Adding some grass shouldn't be too difficult. I may have also toned down the vignet just a little myself but simply my opinion.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:05 pm
by Alex
xerubus wrote:dodge and burn tool. for darkening used burn/midtones/exp 52

cheers


Thanks, Mark. Excellent.

Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:09 pm
by Sheila Smart
Absolutely beautiful mono conversion. Well done. Love them!

Cheers
Sheila

Old Woman revisited

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:02 pm
by Alex
Hi all,

After very useful and detailed direction by Mark on B&W conversion, I gave it a go in PS. Mind you, my version is miles behind Mark's, nevertheless would love to know what you think.

Thank you

Alex


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:09 pm
by Alpha_7
Alex - Nice work with the PP. All the B&Ws are so much more powerfull for this subject then the original colour. Not wanting to be mean, but I keep thinking of the witches in Macbeth.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:12 pm
by Alex
Thanks, Craig... yeah you're right :-)

Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:22 pm
by blacknstormy
Alex - great shot - and made fantastic by B&W conversion ... well done (to both of you) !!

You thought of the witches of MacBeth - I thought of Dad's army "They do not like it up them" ;)

Rel

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:59 pm
by Alex
blacknstormy wrote:Alex - great shot - and made fantastic by B&W conversion ... well done (to both of you) !!

You thought of the witches of MacBeth - I thought of Dad's army "They do not like it up them" ;)

Rel


Thanks, Rel.

Alex