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The Human Form

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:40 am
by stubbsy

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:06 am
by birddog114
Peter,
A difference perspective!
Glad to hear you enjoyed your day, yesterday with your friend!

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:58 am
by Sheetshooter
Peter,
To my eye you have excelled yourself in #1 and #2.
Not to take anything away from you, but I feel the influence of considerable collaboration here - not that there's anything wrong with that at all - but my advice would be to attempt to get yourself back into that mindset when on your own and apply a similar rationale to other motifs. ....... Or work with the fellow more frequently.
Congratilations,

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:41 am
by Heath Bennett
Very cool Peter. Great artistic direction.

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:51 am
by Sheetshooter
On closer inspection I should point out that by "#1" and "#2" I mean the first and second pictures presented rather than the numbering of the captions.
Those first two shots speak volumes in a simple and direct way.
Cheers,

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:52 am
by mudder
Some very symbolic and brooding images there, it would have been fun to try something different like that. Loved the lighting in the B&W's. Great results...

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:14 am
by Killakoala
Definately an interesting diversion from your normal work Peter. Well done.

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:35 am
by stubbsy
Thank you all for your comments. I really liked these shots, but since they were so different to what I usually do I was uncertain if they spoke to others the same way,
Sheetshooter wrote:To my eye you have excelled yourself in #1 and #2.
Not to take anything away from you, but I feel the influence of considerable collaboration here - not that there's anything wrong with that at all - but my advice would be to attempt to get yourself back into that mindset when on your own and apply a similar rationale to other motifs. ....... Or work with the fellow more frequently.
Walter - #1 & #2 were my pick also (knew which you meant
BTW 
). James has a P & S, but rarely uses it. I gave him my camera to have a play and he spent about an hour wandering around. One of his pics was a hand held shot from above pointing down his body. When we were reviewing his pics I suggested I stand on a chair and retake the shot. 60 or so shots later we had a number we were both happy with. That done, I was sitting down after we'd finished having a cool drink and James walked past just as I looked up and caught him silhouetted against those great clouds. I cajoled him into posing for another 30 or so shots in various poses and #1 was the result. So I reckon these are a 50/50 split creatively. There is no doubt in my mind I would not have done any of these without the collaborative process. The night silhouettes were similar - I was showing the guys what the Sb-800 could do off camera and these were my demo pics.
mudder wrote:Loved the lighting in the B&W's. Great results...
Andrew, as said above these were done with the SB-800 remotely fired by the D70 (once I worked out how to do it).
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An interesting sidenote to all these pics is that the only other "person" shot I'm happy with is one I took earlier this year of James' sister Emily:


Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:44 am
by leek
Congrats Stubbsy... an interesting series of images...
#1 is an excellent image, but has a little more bare flesh than I'm comfortable with. Personally I would also worry about possible unwelcome attention that that image might attract on the web...
#2 is an excellent shot and I wish that I had a head of hair that thick...
#3 doesn't do a lot for me I'm afraid...
#4 is very intense and is my pick of the series...
#5 would have benefited greatly from a little eye contact... - very menacing...

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:45 am
by marcotrov
#1 and #2 also are my pick but I like them all. Very artistic indeed Peter and technically well executed. I would love to see #1 & #2 in B&W or Sepia with some fairly liberal contrast work
cheers
marco

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:59 am
by stubbsy
leek wrote:Congrats Stubbsy... an interesting series of images...
#1 is an excellent image, but has a little more bare flesh than I'm comfortable with. Personally I would also worry about possible unwelcome attention that that image might attract on the web...
Good point John and to be honest one that didn't occur to me. Interestingly James was clothed, but like is the fashion these days, his pants hang so low you see the top of his boxers. I intentionally framed this immediately above the boxers since the hint of clothing distracted from the almost primal nature of the image. Now you have handed me a dilemma since I love the image, but don't want it to be misused.
Marco - Tried #2 and it didn't work in B & W (you lose the contrast between the warm tones of the body and the grey/blue of the floor) but here is #1 in sepia tonings and, having regards to John's comments, cropped a little higher in the hope it's less appealing to grubby men (sad world we live in!):


Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:15 pm
by Paul
A great set Peter!
Your range is very impressive, just love the last one with the devil


Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:28 pm
by Alpha_7
I really like this series Peter, it's nice to see you out of your comfort zone and trying something different. I personally see the first shot as art, and has very little to offer (grubby old men or women) that they couldn't find else where and far more explict. Thinking back to the last challenge we had exposed nipple, which may have got a few raised eyebrows, but no suggestions of "mis-use", that your shot has recieved.
I do like the final treatment with the B&W and great shadows.

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:35 pm
by Glen
Very impressive Stubbsy, like others I believe 1 & 2 are excellent, you have really excelled in an area you were not familiar with

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:02 pm
by sirhc55
Peter - In my normal manner and contrary to the popular response (i.e. James #5 and James #1), I view your James #8 as being a superlative example of film noir (not usually applied to still pics).
Although James #5 shouts Leni Reisenthal as a pose, it lacks a stark and thunderous sky to compliment the pose and give it dramatic finality.
James #8 is the winner


Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:01 pm
by Alex
Hi Peter,
I really like these images. Very original.
Alex

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:54 pm
by mic
You are becoming a brilliant Photog Stubbsy, these are great.
Arty, Farty, The lot.
Well done.
Mic.


Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:54 pm
by stubbsy
Gentlemen, Thanks for the comments. As I say - not my usual style, but I'm more than happy with them.
Craig - we get a bit paranoid about this stuff I guess. I certainly see that shot as art.

Posted:
Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:31 pm
by Matt. K

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:14 am
by Alpha_7
Matt, their daughter featured in Peter's momento book, if I'm not mistaken her name is Emily, and was mentioned earlier in this thread.

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:26 am
by Geoff
Peter - you are an artist with improving abilities that are witnessed on a daily basis! Great work and as you say, not the norm for you. I like all of them! Well done


Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:27 am
by rokkstar
Peter,
Only just seen these shots and like everyone has said, they are quite a departure from your normal style.
I really like James#6 and James#8 - I love the high contrast dark feel.
The shapes caused by the shadows on Stuart are interesting and I can see the effect you were going for but it doesn't work for me I'm afraid.
I like James #5 but feel that there is a bit too much space above his arms. If he filled the frame more completely, to my eye, it would balanace it further.
James #1 is interesting, and I like the opposing patterns created by the wooden floor and the round haircut. My only slight annoyance with this is the chair at the top of the frame. The curve is nice because it fits into the curve of his back and mimics the roundness of his hair but the downside is that his head is too far forward in the frame, again to my eye, unbalancing it slightly.
Nice shots though Peter and nice to see you continually experimenting. Your skills as a photographer are growing with every shot you take. Also, I am jealous that you had a
model to practice on!!

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:39 pm
by stubbsy
Matt K - what Craig said
Geoff - Thanks for the praise. I'm not sure about the artist bit though
Matt B - I quite like feel in #6 and #8 and have a few more to do like that which I'll post soon. #5 - For me I like the feeling of freedom the space at the top gives the image rather than crowding the figure. Shows how subjective this is. James #1 - the chair is what I was standing on. In all the floorboard shots I had no idea what I was shooting since I was holding the camera above my head while standing on the chair in order to get the height. I guess there's a bit of the Leigh shooting blind influence there too. And yes, James was a really good
model since he dug what we were doing and wasn't at all self conscious.

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:17 pm
by marcotrov
Peter I think the Sepia finish is the ONE. I like that a lot very artistic. You are almost tempted to keep playing with the dodging and burning on that promise of a brooding sky without losing that marvellous contrast you have engaged. A
modernistic look at the 'crucifixtion'

Great work Peter.
cheers
marco

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:57 am
by stubbsy
Thanks Marco. I prefer the sepia too since it makes the shot more moody.

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:24 pm
by Matt. K
Peter 271 and 400 are the 2 that, for me, reach the realm of "fine art". The others are like sketchs or visualizations that got you to these fine images. Bloody well done and I am loking forward to seeing the prints.

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:52 pm
by stubbsy
Matt - 271 & 400 = James #12 and James #5?