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 by DaveB on Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:20 pm
Nice to see the site back again!
EOS 20D, 17mm, f/18, 2 minutes, ISO 100
This image was taken around dusk. As you can see from the exposure data, the light levels were getting very low! I had gone out with a minimum of equipment, and only took the plain remote cable instead of the fancy one with inbuilt timer. A mistake I'll try not to make again! I ended up using my phone's stopwatch function (waking it up every now and then to light the display and check on the time).
In my last posted photo from this location there were strong colours in the graffitti and a walkway (and in that composition they weren't the focus), and the good suggestion was made to leech the colour out. In this one the colours are subtle details so I've left it as-is.
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by Jonesy on Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:28 pm
Dave,
I really like this shot. Seems like a good location, its almost a scene from a movie where the Hero is searching for the bad guy so he can save the girl... damn the scripts are all the same!
Looks like a good place to experiment as well. A smoke machine and some lights could create endless images.
I like it and look forward to more from that location...
Cheers
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by sirhc55 on Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Dave - this is a superb shot showing the capabilities of the Canon in long time exposures  Chris
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by DStrom on Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:46 pm
Dave that is a great shot, looks like an interesting location for photography!
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by wendellt on Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:21 am
Cool post industrial grafitti ridden, full of roar even when being slowly roten away by rust, i like this sort of scene, rave time!
Would you try a version at night after it has just rained?
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by Sheetshooter on Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:07 am
Dave,
What a cracker of a shot in an absolute cracker of a location. I envy you that site and would be keen to learn of its access by PM for my next trip south shooting Harleys.
May I ask, did you use the long exposure noise reduction in that shot? That would have made for quite some waiting around.
I assume that you used something like the 17-40 zoom for this. As good as it is, I found that the lens performance started to appreciably degrade after f/16 so I wonder why f/18. The lens peaks at f/11 and I get the sense that depth of field would not have been a bother. At f/11 the exposure time would have been less than a minute. Incidentally, did you hand meter or was this the camera's internal meter?
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by Hudo on Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:57 am
Hi Dave,
Great location, looks like it would be difficult to get access too?
Mark
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by DaveB on Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:27 am
Sheetshooter wrote:May I ask, did you use the long exposure noise reduction in that shot? That would have made for quite some waiting around.
No. Part-way through the shot I considered having it on, but given the results I got a while back with star shots with 4 minutes @ ISO 200 (with noise reduction turned off as on the 20D it would cause gaps in the star trails) I figured I'd be happy with 2 minutes @ ISO 100. Sheetshooter wrote:I assume that you used something like the 17-40 zoom for this. As good as it is, I found that the lens performance started to appreciably degrade after f/16 so I wonder why f/18. The lens peaks at f/11 and I get the sense that depth of field would not have been a bother. At f/11 the exposure time would have been less than a minute.
You're right, it was the 17-40mm/4 L, and you're right I could have got away with a larger aperture. I think I've been a bit over-cautious lately after having been caught out with not enough DOF a couple of times.  Sheetshooter wrote:Incidentally, did you hand meter or was this the camera's internal meter?
Just the camera's meter at a wider aperture and then multiplied as I stopped down. Hudo wrote:Great location, looks like it would be difficult to get access too?
Somewhat. I'm working on a folio of images from this location, and need to get most of that done before I start possibly compromising my own access by arranging more access. But if you're desperate you can PM me about it in the coming months.
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by mudder on Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:49 am
G'day Dave,
This has such a gritty, urban feel for me. Love the light falling through the roof/skylights and the sombre colours. Terrific stuff...
Aka Andrew
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