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Postby Nnnnsic on Wed May 17, 2006 12:57 pm

If you have any ideas or requests for a tutorial in an application like Adobe Photoshop, Bridge, Capture One, or something else like it, post a request here and we'll try to get a tutorial recorded in video format for you.

Obviously, this is done on a voluntary level so it may take some time, but if you have an idea for a tutorial, propose the idea here and we can discuss it and see if others would like a video of it too!

Also, if you'd like to donate software, hardware, or any other donations that you'd either like to see tutorials done on or even just a way of saying thanks, we're always happy for that too. :D
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Postby big pix on Wed May 17, 2006 1:56 pm

I would like a tutorial for writing scripts for mac, to be used in indesign
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Postby Glen on Wed May 17, 2006 1:57 pm

How to sleep with a supermodel?
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Postby gstark on Wed May 17, 2006 2:23 pm

Glen wrote:How to sleep with a supermodel?


That one's easy.

Or don't you mean "sleep"?

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Postby Aussie Dave on Wed May 17, 2006 2:45 pm

Perhaps someone could do a few basic tutorials on:

- Using the D70/D200/350D/20D (for the absolute beginners amongst us)
- How to dry clean your sensor
- How to wet clean your sensor
- Using your SB600/800 as an external flash
- How to set PRE White Balance correctly

...and the list goes on....

These are just suggestions, and most may only be useful for those that are not well-versed in photography....however I imagine those people would appreciate the help (and it would be a great refresher to all of us).

Of course, finding people to conduct the tutorials may prove the most difficult part.

Great idea though ! Being able to "see it" rather than just read about it would certainly cut out some of the misinterpretation, that can sometimes take place when reading instructions.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 17, 2006 2:49 pm

Aussie Dave,
Most of the stuffs you asked are in the important link sections.
Same as preset WB with Pringle lid or Expodisc.
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Postby Aussie Dave on Wed May 17, 2006 2:50 pm

birddog114 wrote:Aussie Dave,
Most of the stuffs you asked are in the important link sections.
Same as preset WB with Pringle lid or Expodisc.


All as video tutorials ?
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 17, 2006 2:54 pm

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birddog114 wrote:Aussie Dave,
Most of the stuffs you asked are in the important link sections.
Same as preset WB with Pringle lid or Expodisc.


All as video tutorials ?


Do we need them in video for all those common tasks?
Perhaps photoshop or something else complication

If I need to learn how to s...., just pop in a video store and hire an X-rate DVD :shock: :lol: :lol:
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Postby gstark on Wed May 17, 2006 3:28 pm

Er, people ...

We're in the (new) Post Processing section now.

The tutorials that Leigh was asking for suggestions for were directly related to post processing techniques and concepts.

While many of the suggestions made may have merit, they're not really within the context of this section.

Sorry for the cofunsion. :)
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Postby CraigVTR on Wed May 17, 2006 3:41 pm

How about a nice easy one to get us dummies started.
Post downloading workflow, such as;
opening an image in photoshop (use bridge),
what to look at in the raw converter (exposure etc etc),
levels, curves etc,
copyrighting,
what to/where to save the image.

What I have suggested may be a clear as mud to those who know pscs2. :? But as a new user of pscs2 this week I have no idea of the quickest way to do a basic pp of an image.
Feel free to tell me I am an idiot and should go away. :) :)
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Postby greencardigan on Wed May 17, 2006 3:44 pm

What about a PS tutorial showng some uses for the curves tool?


Is video the best format for the proposed tutorial? What's the expected file size for an average video tutorial?

Why not just simple screen dumps?
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 17, 2006 3:46 pm

greencardigan wrote:What about a PS tutorial showng some uses for the curves tool?


Is video the best format for the proposed tutorial? What's the expected file size for an average video tutorial?

Why not just simple screen dumps?


Curves would be good as I have no idea how to use them, (properly).
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Postby CraigVTR on Wed May 17, 2006 3:49 pm

Alpha_7 wrote:Curves would be good as I have no idea how to use them, (properly).

Run your hand gently along the curves until she smiles........... :D :D
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Postby Glen on Wed May 17, 2006 4:12 pm

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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 17, 2006 4:13 pm

Alpha_7 wrote:
greencardigan wrote:What about a PS tutorial showng some uses for the curves tool?


Is video the best format for the proposed tutorial? What's the expected file size for an average video tutorial?

Why not just simple screen dumps?


Curves would be good as I have no idea how to use them, (properly).


You can get some ideas by hoping into Blockbuster and grab one of their DVD :lol:
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Postby shutterbug on Wed May 17, 2006 4:38 pm

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Postby Steffen on Wed May 17, 2006 5:39 pm

greencardigan wrote:What about a PS tutorial showng some uses for the curves tool?


In the meantime, have a look at this:

http://ronbigelow.com/articles/curves-1/curves-1.htm

He's also got one on levels, I believe.

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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 12:45 am

greencardigan wrote:What about a PS tutorial showng some uses for the curves tool?


I think I can manage one of those.

Is video the best format for the proposed tutorial? What's the expected file size for an average video tutorial?


Well, it's video with audio narration over a mic which will probably be closer to getting people to understand what's going on rather than just text and images.

I knopw from my learning of 3d work that the video tuts are helping me more than my book and article reading.

And in regards to sizes, most of you will be on broadband so sizes will be from 15mb to 50mb, and if you're not on broadband, I'm sure we can arrange a cd or dvd with the tuts sent out to you.

We're nice here. :)

Why not just simple screen dumps?


Probably because it's not as user friendly as being technically "spoken to" as a video will be.

Realise that I'm prepping this vids for use as Flash files, Quicktime, and Windows Media, but other formats like Divx, Real Media, and even a DVD aren't exactly out of my reach.

Other tuts if others need them that I can do are other pieces of software like Capture One or Sony Vegas (yes, I know it's a video tool, but hey...)

Likewise, if anyone has any other pieces of software they need help with, I usually adapt to software in the space of 10 to 30 minutes so just give me a yell and we can try to work something out.
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Postby macka on Thu May 18, 2006 8:59 am

Very generous of you to offer to do this. :D

Nnnnsic wrote:Other tuts if others need them that I can do are other pieces of software like Capture One


Not sure if there's anyone else out there, but I will raise my hand for this - we just got Capture One and I could use a tutorial on it.
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Postby barry on Thu May 18, 2006 9:10 am

Leigh,

How about something on batch processing images.

I get 178 shots on my 1G card every time I go to the car races. Processing one at a time is a chore.

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Postby Oneputt on Thu May 18, 2006 9:27 am

Leigh I think that this is a top idea. I for one have some difficulties following many of the written tutorials as somewhere along the line there is an instruction which is open to confusion. A video would remove this.
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Postby losfp on Thu May 18, 2006 9:34 am

Video tutes are definitely a great idea - I find that I retain a lot more info, and understand it better if it is demonstrated to me, as opposed to just reading a description of how to do it.

Some ideas:

- How to correct distortion, perspective etc.
- How to clone out distracting elements in photos
- How to assemble multi-part panoramas
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Postby gstark on Thu May 18, 2006 10:42 am

barry wrote:Leigh,

How about something on batch processing images.

I get 178 shots on my 1G card every time I go to the car races. Processing one at a time is a chore.


Barrie,

First trick is no trick at all - exposure settings.

Often you'll find it best to put your camera on manual exposure, ans select a set of values that you can use for all of your shooting during the day. This is only going to work when the weather/lighting conditions are constant, of course, but given that situation, it should be evident that the EV that you're using will therefore be constant.

Once you overcome that hurdle, every image will have one variable knocked out already, which means that you have less to worry about during your PP.

Ad in a custom curve, and most of your work is often already taken care of.
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Postby Nosh on Thu May 18, 2006 11:20 am

Hi Everyone,

This is a great idea, and I am already constructing a lot of tutorials for my work regarding the use of some of the intranet based systems.

I use Macromedia Captivate which generates swf files and html pages. These tutorials are then available as a link through the intranet when people come to the home page of their respective systems. Audio, text, screen grabs and capturing the screen motion results in a very engaging tutorial. I have even dropped in some video where needed.

We could probably have a section on the site/thread where the tutorials are stored and linked as the swf and html files are not as memory hungry as avi or quicktime files.

Thinking a bit further, We could have an entire minimeet - ex: the upcoming photoshop tutorial minimeet in that format for members who might like to access it later.

What are your thoughts?

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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 11:30 am

I'm using Captivate for the tutorials I write for a business in regards to how their workflow uses Capture One, however (and this is me being completely honest here), this piece of software is useless for recording tutorials where the screen is going to change often, like showing people how to clone or chop in Photoshop where the image changes every second.

I've recorded this tutorial three times (and amazingly, still left out something so I'm recording a second part later today to stop the pedants from irritating me when I release it) and the first time I did it, I let Captivate record it and was left with a 512mb core Captivate session made up of 485 individual slides Captivate thought would work comprising of stills, animations it creates, and video.

Captivate is a great program... but only for software where there isn't a lot of image changes going on.

That said, I'm still exporting my files at the moment to a Flash video file as they're getting to be the smallest.

I'll be updating my WMV encoder tonight as well as my Divx codecs as I think they'll probably end up being the best options at the moment (so I'll end up with SWF / FLV, WMV, and Divx AVI).
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 11:35 am

macka wrote:Not sure if there's anyone else out there, but I will raise my hand for this - we just got Capture One and I could use a tutorial on it.


Mac or PC?

losfp wrote:- How to correct distortion, perspective etc.
- How to clone out distracting elements in photos
- How to assemble multi-part panoramas
- Adobe Camera Raw : Your new best friend


Hey, I'm game for recording this.

You might have to give me a bit of time, but I'm up for things like this.

Except for that last one.

While I use Camera Raw, I'd say there are better tools to use.

A tutorial for either Capture One or Nikon Capture would probably be better for people wanting Adobe Camera Raw tuts.

That said, I'll make one for Camera Raw if you really want as there are a lot of people that use it.
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Postby marcotrov on Thu May 18, 2006 11:41 am

I think this will be very useful to all our members. Great idea leigh
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Postby Nosh on Thu May 18, 2006 11:42 am

Hi Nnnsic

I do have a copy of sorenson squeeze which I use to convert to flv, swf or quicktime for various bandwidths. Do let me know if that can be of any help.

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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 11:44 am

Camtasia handles the conversion for me.

I'm tempted to try to push the size by pulling it back into Flash and letting it have it's way with the video codecs.

How much compression do you normally pull using Sorenson?
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Postby Nosh on Thu May 18, 2006 11:45 am

Speaking of Camera tutorials, im sure people must have come across this link from nikon as well, but here it is again incase someone missed it.

http://www.nikondigitutor.com/index_eng.html

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Postby losfp on Thu May 18, 2006 11:47 am

Leigh, I only suggested ACR as that is what I use. I'm pretty competent at it though, but would love to see tutorials on other alternatives to see what the fuss is about :)
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 12:54 pm

losfp wrote:...but would love to see tutorials on other alternatives to see what the fuss is about :)


I'd imagine the fuss is over the others not being by Adobe and being forced to use Adobe Gamma. :lol:

But yeah, I'm probably qualified (I say probably because I use them quite often) for apps like Vegas (I can use Premiere... I just think it's crap so choose not to), Audition, Sound Forge, Dreamweaver, Flash, Acrobat & Distiller, among the other non-imaging related applications so if you need tuts in those too, this section for video tuts doesn't necessarily have to just be on Digital Still Post-Processing.
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Postby stubbsy on Thu May 18, 2006 1:38 pm

This whole exercise is starting get bigger than Ben Hur. One thing that occurs to me is there is poor value in duplicating what's readily available elsewhere.
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu May 18, 2006 1:58 pm

Actually, a lot of this stuff isn't available elsewhere and where it is, it certainly isn't free.

I'm a big believe in edumacation being free or on a donate-if-you-want-to policy, similar to how a lot of software developers work.

It drives me nuts that a lot of these video tutorials cost pretty large amounts of money and don't tell you how to do a whole lot.

So far, I've only found a couple of companies who offer good prices and good tutorials.

And we're just proposing some ideas here, for the most part Peter.

While I do plan on releasing the first part of my chop job tutorials either today or tomorrow, I'm going to continue making these.

I find it interesting and fun to teach people and this is no different.
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Postby macka on Thu May 18, 2006 10:17 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:
macka wrote:Not sure if there's anyone else out there, but I will raise my hand for this - we just got Capture One and I could use a tutorial on it.


Mac or PC?



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Postby big pix on Thu May 18, 2006 11:01 pm

stubbsy wrote:This whole exercise is starting get bigger than Ben Hur. One thing that occurs to me is there is poor value in duplicating what's readily available elsewhere.


....... I agree....... there are a lot of top video tutorials to be seen
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Postby big pix on Thu May 18, 2006 11:07 pm

to name a few.....

Scott Kelby
Dave Cross
Mat Kloskowski
Russell Brown
Ben Wilmore

and many others....... google is your friend
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri May 19, 2006 1:08 am

Well then don't watch them then!
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 6:50 am

I totally agreed with big pix,
There're many tuts videos on the net or on other forms which we can or obtaining easily, they covered most all topics and presented by many experts.

Can we beat them? :shock:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri May 19, 2006 6:53 am

Why do we necessarilly have to beat them?

Why can't we just be another mob who offer video tutorials?

Frankly, if there are people who don't think we need them then I think the obvious answer is for those people to not bother with downloading the ones we'll provide.

Otherwise, everyone else can get them if they want to.
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 6:53 am

Leigh,
You're watching me? Not in bed yet? :shock:
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 6:57 am

Nnnnsic wrote:Why do we necessarilly have to beat them?

Why can't we just be another mob who offer video tutorials?

Frankly, if there are people who don't think we need them then I think the obvious answer is for those people to not bother with downloading the ones we'll provide.

Otherwise, everyone else can get them if they want to.


Leigh,

We don't need to beat them or not going to beat them anyway.
Coz, something out there are ready available and presented by some wellknown gurus in the industry, why should we repeat the same applications.
I'm going to have stack of those DVDs or video soon, someone in the US offered me before but I refused, I might call them today and request those medias again :oops:

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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri May 19, 2006 7:02 am

I'm getting some work done.

Why repeat them?

Who says it's necessarily repeating them?

I know that with me, every application barring Lightwave is something I've taught myself so I know I'm more than likely to use a different technique or procedure than what a video will show.

Plus, what difference is it requesting Photoshop tutorials with Matt to recording them and distributing them on the web for free for people?

By the logic you're going by, we shouldn't have Photoshop tutorials because we can get the tutorials already in a video format which is available in various places on the web.

One thing I've noticed Birdy is the surprisingly lack of free videos available for learning things on the web.

The "well-known gurus" often seem to charge an arm and a leg for the most basic of tutorials and that's their right too, of course, but what harm is it if we release videos made by users of the forum for free for others to use?

It's not like it's wasting anyone's time if their volunteering it for that purpose.
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 7:16 am

Leigh,
Don't get me wrong please!

Photoshop workshop won't cover all topics which everyone wants or asks and limited by timing as within 2 or 3 hours.

A photoshop workshop is just a workshop to share and learn experiences from others.

Someone may pickup some ideas somewhere or on books, videos, they may want to discuss at the workshop or may not understand thru the processes, so the workshop is there for.

Having said that, I do not object what you're doing and supporting you in doing that way or having our own resources for some members who missed out or can't afford to spend $$$/ time on their researches.

Repeating is not the main issues, many gurus repeated all applications in their books and videos on the same topics, generally they are the same main paths or concepts, but each one has difference way to present themself to the readers.

With the workshop, I don't think we will cover all but at least few common tasks which we use daily in the game, worth to record for references.

I also recommend members sourcing or taking their times to do more reseaching, self studying via the net, heaps of infos out there, if there's something you got stuck, then the workshop is a venue to help with a discussion.
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 7:26 am

Nnnnsic wrote:

The "well-known gurus" often seem to charge an arm and a leg for the most basic of tutorials and that's their right too, of course, but what harm is it if we release videos made by users of the forum for free for others to use?


Our Matt.K is free, he's not charging anything, except a nice cold beer for him :lol:
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Postby birddog114 on Fri May 19, 2006 7:36 am

Leigh,
I thought you're gone to bed :?:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri May 19, 2006 2:13 pm

I went to bed around the time the above post was made.

I was finishing a graphic for a client (where I'll probably get paid less than what I think I deserve, but meh).
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Postby wendellt on Fri May 19, 2006 2:21 pm

photoshop tutorial

how to make an action script that applies generic data in the file info dialog box
across a number of images

further to that a script that automatially captions a number of images
in the fields:
description
date
keywords
location
state
Country


getting tired of manually captioning my images submitted to the paper

thanks leigh your a champion, i'll donate something to you at the next meet
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Postby Grev on Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:41 am

A tutorial about work flow would be nice as well.

Also fundamentals about the Nikon CLS and some photoshop stuff like smart sharpening, etc.
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Postby Nikkofan on Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:22 am

This is really nice of you, Leigh and very generous indeed! I'd love a copy (PC) and will try to think of what I'd like to see included. It's not often you get a chance to have input into content so you get a Tailor-Made Tutorial, prepared by someone giving up their own time and doing it for nothing and supplied for free. Wow, Leigh. Take a huge bow!

There may be plenty of these available on the market, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to divert $$ from Tutorials to more important things .. such as indulging Lens Lust or dreaming of the (purchase of the) D200 Day! :lol:
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